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To Tesstostheresa 		Thank you Tesstostheresa, 30 Okt 2023 22:59
Yes, feeling welcome really is the best thing. You are gentle and sweet. I do hope you have many good days ahead of you!

To Farfrost 		And thank you for bringing vitality Farfrost, 31 Okt 2023 09:55
Just in case you don't know, here you can reply to a post by selecting the hollow circle in the front of the title of that post.

To Tesstostheresa 		“Summarizing” ;) Tesstostheresa, 31 Okt 2023 20:45
Ohhh! I see! Thank you Farfrost! I get it now!
Years ago, here in the States, most neighborhoods had a committee called The Welcome Wagon. They came to your house and gave gifts and let you know the vibe of your new community.
I officially appoint you as the head of the Welcome Wagon to Bug chat! You Rock!

To Hoohoo 		HooHoo says:dance.here Hoohoo, 30 Okt 2023 18:51
What is fish in spanish?

To Mayathewolf 		it's... Mayathewolf, 04 Apr 2024 18:13
Pez, if google translate is right-

To Tesstostheresa 		I’m a bug once again… Tesstostheresa, 30 Okt 2023 08:11
Have I morphed?
Happy to be here and not in the sink. That was a dangerous situation…

To Farfrost 		Welcome! Farfrost, 30 Okt 2023 22:40
Cheers for our new friend who escaped the sink :^)

To Sjeu 		Hi Tesstostheresa, Sjeu, 31 Okt 2023 12:11
Good to see you :- ) I Like your new chosen outfit!
Can I just ask, are you dutch? Did we meet (long time ago) at a nobodyhere-meeting in Utrecht?

To Tesstostheresa 		Hey there! Tesstostheresa, 31 Okt 2023 20:33
Hi Sjeu,
Thank you for the compliment! Stripes are in for the Fall!
No, I am not Dutch. I’m American. I live in Silicon Valley. We may have met a million years ago in the sink. ?
I’m jealous that you guys had a meet up in Ultrecht! What was that like?! Cool!
Thank you for the the article you shared. Yes, it was disturbing. Is it art? I thought the same as you- what if this were a human being… well, anyway, nice to say halo to you!

To Sjeu 		We may have met in the sink before :- ) Sjeu, 31 Okt 2023 23:05
Long time ago there have been 3 Nobodyhere-meetings and 2 of them where in Utrecht where I live.

The first and most iconic meeting (summer 2003; great food, a cosy campfire and a sleepover) was in Zeeland and that one was hosted by Kreeft, a lovely woman who used to visit the Dutch side.

Attendees where a mix from the English and Dutch side. With some folks from the Netherlands, Belgium and the UK.




To Sjeu 		Back then Sjeu, 31 Okt 2023 23:15
I mostly posted on the Dutch side. My clumsy social skills back then, made me unpopular on this side of the site..

But when you click on my yellow wiggly tail and skip to page 1, you'll read the last remnants of the 2 Utrecht meetings, where we went out for dinner followed by a pub tour.

The 2nd meeting was december 2003 and the 3rd one was 6 november 2004.

None of the meetings were attended by Jogchem though. He rarely posted here back then. Maybe he didn't even know about the meetings..

To Farfrost 		Fascinating Farfrost, 01 Nov 2023 11:54
So this forum used to flourish to the point where offline gatherings could be organised! In the early 2000s, each bug used the Internet for friendly communication, building their own worlds and meeting up in some city ...

Ouch, I now have the feeling that I'm visiting a place of interest.

To Sjeu 		It was like that, Sjeu, 01 Nov 2023 12:15
the internet was pretty new for most and this forum was a place where people used to slow-chat and/or chat live in 'the sink' (chatroom design with a picture of a kitchen sink where your bug-avatar could buzz around and chat with other insects there. By just opening but not entering the sink you could lurk anonymously.) This page particularly was known for people sharing their greatest online finds to inspire others and as an invite for others to explore and share their online treasures too.

To Sjeu 		The dutch page helpt built Sjeu, 01 Nov 2023 12:26
some very close friendships. After the meetings, some people started visiting each other regularly in real life too. A few relationships have started from it and I recall the birth of the 1st 'nobodyhere' baby (parents met here online).

Everyone was very welcome to join. The regular crowd would hang around here daily, it was the pre-social media era and a lot of life was shared here. Some became like online characters though.. I really liked it here (I have filled about 84 pages of splats).

To Sjeu 		The vibe was about being frank en witty Sjeu, 01 Nov 2023 13:25
I used to love it when a post would have a response from the others. The most beautiful interactions could occur.

Once there was a woman named Emmepem and she made a website where she collected the nicest splat-interactions from Nobodyhere.com.

Also a man who called himself Poppendief back then, had made a website where we where invited to post our poetry. Because a lot of us loved to write it. Sometimes someone started some lines and then others would co-create a poem, just on the spot.

To Sjeu 		That time Sjeu, 01 Nov 2023 14:04
I was one of the youngest visitors but I admired how some here were very candid and others were very humorous and some could at times be very cheeky. A lot of creative people where attracted to come here. Everyone was very respectful of idiosyncrasies and quirks. Only rarely someone was to be called out for Bs.

Being very shy and traumatized by my past and irl. circumstances, this place helped me to open up and grow more social skills. A warm and steady playground for which I'm very grateful.

To Farfrost 		Farfrost, 02 Nov 2023 13:31
I also visit regularly mostly because of interesting people I meet here, though far fewer than at the height of its prosperity. But there are no regrets, because it flourished before I came into the world (laughs).

People come and go... Like the cycle of seasons. Every year the same, every year different. I'm curious where so many people with real souls and creativity are now.

To Farfrost 		Farfrost, 01 Nov 2023 12:42
So you asked that question because our new friend mentioned the sink, and the sink page existed as a chat room a long time ago... Woah!

Although I can't understand Dutch, I regularly visit the Dutch version of the forum and use the translator to guess what you are talking about, but the words often fail to make sense. :-/

The atmosphere there is indeed very intimate (the warmth could still be felt by me through unknown language).

To Sjeu 		A woman called Tess Sjeu, 01 Nov 2023 13:00
attended one of the nobody-here-meetings in Utrecht, therefor I asked :- )

The dutch side has only very few visitors left. There is one die hard inhibitor though and he's from Belgium. He has been here none stop under many names. I call him Sjoki but it's derived from Iwan Sjokottov. In the past he actually made hundreds of bug-characters, each with their own perks. 3 are left. He stayed loyal all these years and to me this felt kind of healing. To know someone is waiting for your return..

To Sjeu 		One time Sjeu, 01 Nov 2023 12:45
Jogchem made this suit out of buttons and he'd send a button to anyone who would make a picture with that button. I have often tagged it to my clothes, very proud to wear one. Unfortunately I lost it but my picture is still up in the gallery. Could you guess which one is me?

nobodyhere.com/buttons.hier

To Farfrost 		Hard one Farfrost, 01 Nov 2023 13:00
Uhhh...Based on my shallow knowledge of you so far, and a bit of weird intuition, I think it's the lady in the light blue denim jacket .... Can't be too sure.

There were a few others that also felt likely to be you, but she had the best smile, so... :P

To Sjeu 		Ha good try! Sjeu, 01 Nov 2023 13:08
My picture is in black and white, it's down below and I'm kissing a senior cow. Asked the farmer who owned her, in advance to make a picture with her and later photo-shopped the button on the cows ear-mark so to not unnecessarily stress her out.


To Farfrost 		Ow Farfrost, 01 Nov 2023 13:18
My first step was to eliminate anyone who doesn't have a badge on their shirt, because you said 'I have often tagged it to my clothes, very proud to wear one'.

That's a cute picture! Especially the hair. I love the braid.

To Sjeu 		Thnx! Sjeu, 01 Nov 2023 13:30
I was in my very early 20's there and had this experimental phase with my hairdo. Here it was bleached :- )

To Fukayateru 		Fukayateru, 29 Okt 2023 06:22
The chaos that erupts in the midst of prolonged order is something far more deadly, something that possesses the heat of magma.

To Sjeu 		Can it be washed Sjeu, 29 Okt 2023 15:33
away?

www.youtube.com/@uhk84/videos

To Fukayateru 		Fukayateru, 31 Okt 2023 11:47
It can be solidified... It creates wounds and covers them.

Rain is eternal. Its power can always be calming and will pour layer after layer of solidified rock out of chaos. And I ran on it.

To Sjeu 		Chaos clean-up: I use crumbled lava Sjeu, 01 Nov 2023 11:48
in my garden for fertility, filtering and soil health. Also to strengthen the red-stone path for increased wheelchair accessibility. In the new garden pond I've created this summer I've also put in a layer of lava to act as substrate so water-plants can have something to attach their roots to. On the side there are a few big lava-rocks as a symbol for regeneration and repair as I'm rebuilding my life from scratch.

Did you know that lava-stone can also be used to remove callus from feet?



To Fukayateru 		Haha, I was trying to be poetic Fukayateru, 05 Nov 2023 08:14
But it is nice to hear you talk about your garden. I live on a high floor with no yard. ... I'm a plant killer(they always die in three months) , so maybe it's a good thing for those poor flowers?

And, uh, if you don't mind: Why did you specifically consider wheelchairs?

To Sjeu 		Well Sjeu, 05 Nov 2023 12:34
I'm wearing some wheels myself. Intending to enjoy my garden for as long as possible, I'm designing it to be just optimally ergonomic, practical and beautiful :- )

To Sjeu 		What to think of this Sjeu, 28 Okt 2023 09:29
Mutulate nature under the guise of art to become inspired by how nature recuperates and repairs itself.. not to mention chapter 2 of sharing nature's data with ai.

Apart from originality and aesthetics.. What if it wasn't a tree but done without consent on your body..

Is it true that nature is given agency to lead the process, and the designer is invited to let go of control and have nature take over?



bjoernkarmann.dk/project/occlution_grotesque

To Farfrost 		In my humble opinion Farfrost, 29 Okt 2023 01:45
Although the designer emphasises in the text that no harm was done to the tree, was the idea a bit odd at the very beginning?

If one is going to design a font, it should serve the purpose of a font or provide the aesthetic value that a font should have. This font that was carved into a tree and was expanded abnormally as the tree grew does not qualify as a font.

So the (apparently existing) damage to the tree is also unnecessary.

To Sjeu 		Yes, I agree completely Sjeu, 29 Okt 2023 11:10
The statement 'In this project, the roles have been flipped, as nature is given agency to lead the process, and the designer is invited to let go of control and have nature take over.' doesn't apply. The artist here just hijacks a phenomena and (to me) recording a process doesn't sound like letting go of control.

The beauty & resilience of nature is true art and us humans should only admire and cherish this great force of nature. To learn from it by observation only is a very rich experience.

To Hoohoo 		HooHoo says:think.here Hoohoo, 27 Okt 2023 14:42
I check up on this website daily like it's apart of my life.

To Jogchem 		Hi HooHoo Jogchem, 05 Nov 2023 21:22
Thanks for dropping by!

To Farfrost 		Infection Farfrost, 25 Okt 2023 13:21
I'm not who I am when I got sick. Instead of thinking about study, I would just frantically read books that I normally didn't have time to read.

So I finished the third book of a novel that I started reading in 2022.

To Sjeu 		Get well soon Sjeu, 26 Okt 2023 10:10
and enjoy reading in the meanwhile :- )

Staying at home to read is something this architect Johann David Steingruber, -kind of- pushed to the extreme. He designed different homes, shaped like the alphabet ;- )

archive.org/details/bub_gb_SUBJAAAAcAAJ/page/n78/mode/thumb

To Farfrost 		Thanks! Farfrost, 26 Okt 2023 11:11
I've seen similar architectural ideas before, but that architect did interior decoration. This makes certain letters with lots of corners difficult to design (such as M).

But Steingruber deftly resolved this conflict with designs such as small courtyards. These buildings look perfect for a vampire family...

To Sjeu 		Yup, it's not the type of house Sjeu, 26 Okt 2023 11:30
I would prefer to live in, but I like how the architect took on this mission. I suspect for those early times, they where saucy and provocative ideas.

To Hoohoo 		HooHoo says:gift.here Hoohoo, 24 Okt 2023 19:09
The biggest gift I ever got is finding this lovely website.

To Mayathewolf 		true. Mayathewolf, 04 Apr 2024 18:27
this is a big gift for all of us. I still love this with all of my heart.

To Hoohoo 		HooHoo says:free.here Hoohoo, 24 Okt 2023 18:54
Doing bad things is free, but the consequences cost the most.

To Sjeu 		Same goes for any interaction. Sjeu, 25 Okt 2023 11:33
Is not just about cause and effect.. There's some cause, and there are human beings with a fear of -or a love for effects. And then there is a choice to be made. Of which the outcome brings about another cause.

The more transparent and authentic the choices, the more clean the outcome. In a way it's transactional. There's a true art in keeping it clean.

To Hoohoo 		HooHoo says:do.here Hoohoo, 24 Okt 2023 18:50
Do something good today.


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